Content summary

For many, if not most, purposes a content summary is all that may be needed--particularly if one has a large set of tapes, little time resources to go any further with transcription and no good theoretical reason for investing the time. Still, on the principle that something might turn out to be useful in the taped event that may not be predictable, it is useful to spend a minimum amount of time, summarizing the content of a tape. This is a kind of extended index (and could of course easily be indexed, both for subject and persons mentioned). Should some part of the tape be later found to be useful, then the time may come to move on to a more detailed kind of transcript.

Note, on the left column, numbers taken from the tape counter--imprecise but useful enough for such purposes. On the right column are paraphrases of what was said. (You can see the "Rough" and a "Literal" versions of the same tape)


a-20      how Ireland gained politic but not economic freedom
          from England and how the Africans are wiser now

a-67      how the Irish people adopt foreign forms uncritically

a-108     how people like the old religious forms because they
          were mysterious. Now, they have to face reality

a-155             [Fr. B. notices the tape recorder is running.
                  A new beginning]
          how the bishop says he has to be careful when talking
          where there are recorders on because of what the media
          can do to him.

a-155             [cups are set on the table, another beginning]

a-254     confirmation and how the women from the National
          Housewife Association resented the involvement of
          'faith friends' coming to their homes to prepare their
          children for the sacrament.  How they are soon going
          to discuss the question "Does the Church and the
          School interfere in family life."  How this will lead
          to a discussion of contraception.

a-385     how the 'National Schools' are really Catholic schools
          managed by the priests of the parish.  How Fr. B.
          manages the girls' school but is chaplain of the boys'
          school so that the two roles are not confused.

a-470     how the parents have no power on the school board
          because there are only two parents on the board while
          there are two teachers, four persons Fr. B. appoints,
          plus himself.

a-514             [tea is poured; another beginning]

a-528     Fr. B. tells us about his father--a civil servant who
          worked into the organization of local government after
          independence--, and his mother--the daughter of a
          school teacher in Connemara.  How he was born and
          raised in North Dublin and Drumcondra, went to the
          Irish Christian Brothers.  How his parents would not
          have sent him to the Jesuits because they are too
          Anglo and above.  How his sisters went to school with
          the Dominican because that's where her mother had
          gone.

a-698     how Fr. B. had always wanted to be a priest, perhaps
          his father and mother went quietly to mass every day. 
          How he didn't announce his decision until a month
          before going into the seminary, after he had finished
          his Leaving Certificate.

a-758     He went to Clonliffe and got a B.A. because Dr.
          McQuaid, the archbishop of Dublin at the time,
          insisted that all his priests be qualified to teach
          according to state regulations.

a-793     How he then went to Maynooth and met men from all over
          the country that were different from him and how that
          was his real education.  How the priests from
          Clonliffe were too well polished.  How he found in
          Maynooth that participating in ceremonies with the
          archbishop at the Pro Cathedral didn't matter at all

a-922     how one out of three of his seminary class did not
          finish; how they came from the country, were mostly
          interested in the free education and how they are now
          politicians in government.

a-990     how things are changing again: ten years ago priests
          showed up in jeans and spikes, how they were knocking
          around being in touch with the people, and how it was
          a false thing that people saw through.  In the last
          two or three years young priests are going back into
          the sacristy.  How Fr. B.'s generation was a happy
          medium: they didn't take off their collar because it's
          no use pretending one's is not a priest but they went
          everywhere.

a-1133    the recent change may have to do with the
          secularization of the society and the young priests
          wanting to stand out but they are afraid of the
          harassment they get when they mix a lot.

a-1184    how Fr. B. has knocked on all the door in the estate;
          how people say they are disaffected and pretend not to
          be interested.

a-1124    how the young priests react be building small prayer
          groups with the committed ones, and how they think
          this is more important than going to mass on Sunday. 
          How he thinks those who are disaffected can be brought
          back as they grow old. How some of the young priests
          would even refuse to marry or baptize the children of
          couples who do not come to church.

a-1310    how some parishes require parents to attend classes
          before their children are baptized.  How St.
          Attracta's does this with the effect that parents come
          to Ballinteer where they do not have to.

a-1330    how people do not want to be bothered that way; how
          things like faith friends might work in Inchicore and
          other old parishes because the people are close to
          each other there, while it doesn't work in Ballinteer
          because people are nouveau riche.

a-1480    how the new movement towards prayer groups and
          liturgical reform plays down the importance of the
          mass which is a bad word at the moment; how the word
          "sacrifice" was dropped when talking about the mass,
          and how this has to do with the younger priests not
          wanting to offend anyone, particularly the
          Protestants; how people will not be fooled

                        [End of Tape I, Side A]

b-1       Protestantism is not the same

b-11      At the end of the day religion is a personal
          relationship between oneself and God.

b-24      young priests and computers /vs./ knowing the people

b-36      prayer and who will teach how to do it

b-57      where Fr. Barnard has served in Dublin

b-67      how things were organized in Crumlin

b-90      how corporation estates (County Council) developed,
          and how things develop in Ireland

b-133     how things were organized in Darndale

b-146     how it is to be a Parish Priest, then and now

b-182     the movement towards small prayer groups and Fr.
          Hurley

b-220     receiving priests at home and status in the community

b-239     the difference between Ballinteer (Yuppies), and
          working class parishes ("the real Dublin man is
          honest").

b-250     the relationship between the priests and the business
          men in Ballinteer: not much but Fr. Carey would know
          them.

b-282     how it seems important to younger priests to know
          important people in the parish.

b-302     how those who moved to Ballinteer did it because they
          wanted to be in charge of something, and how they
          don't want directly to do anything concrete--by
          contrast to people in working class parishes.

b-322                   [End of Tape I, Side B]

b-334     how people in Ballinteer try to claim that they live
          in Rathfarnham or Dundrum, how they moved from estate
          to estate (from Broadford to Woodpark to Pine Valley).

b-370     how the priests, pushed by the younger bishops became
          lenient about discipline and how this leads to an
          absence of parish loyalty; how this is something that
          came from America

b-480     how the mass has replaced other devotions after
          Vatican II to correct abuses and how this is much
          easier for priests to do but how it leads to people to
          be quite ignorant.

b-445     what happened when he tried to have masses in people's
          homes to build community in new estates: people
          invited their friends and not their neighbors.

b-474     how people came to Ballinteer for privacy and why
          faith friends would not work; how they do not ask for
          practical help from each other: "all the things I
          wanted to start would not work here... This is the
          words parish I have been in."

b-548     religion is a private thing in Ireland

b-546     how the Church of Ireland people have to be very
          close.

b-575     how it's all tied up with politics: the IRA, the
          Provos, the use of the Church and its symbols on
          television.

b-613     how the people were not well educated about many of
          the changes that followed Vatican II.  There was
          education about the mass but not about such things as
          confession.

b-626     how difficult it is to know why people come to Church.

b-647     how people do not understand that saying mass is like
          a job.

b-683                   [End of Tape II, Side A]

b-683             [a consideration of closing]

b-693     how he may be giving us "only the negative" even
          though there is also a positive

b-707     how the parish cannot be so important for people
          because they do not work there

b-743     saying mass in the places where people work.

b-821     how useful it is to explain mass or confession
          sometimes as it proceeds

b-883     the history of the penance service as it was first
          held three years ago, and how it had to involve to
          remain within the Church guidelines after some people
          complained.

b-962     why "faith friends" will not work given how "country
          people" who have settled in Ballinteer resent small
          groups and how they haven't worked except for a small
          group that is involved in everything.

b-980     how loyalty is to the priest, not to what is being
          done and how people drop out when the priest leaves.

b-998     how politicians manipulate this personal loyalty, for
          example by showing up at funerals of people they don't
          really know in such a way as to be cearly noticed.

b-1024    the politics of announcements at mass

b-1452            [a move to wards a closing]

b-1060    "I am completely disheartened at times" and the
          usefulness of visiting people in their houses even
          though some people appreciate it.  How one must do it
          even if one doesn't feel much like it.

b-1190    how the young priests who try to be personable at mass
          make a mistake if they think people are very
          interested in their troubles.

b-1245            [a move to wards a closing]

b-1258    how priests like Fr. Hurley came from country dioceses
          because of the surplus of priests there.

b-1290    how this surplus is related to the fact that it is
          viewed like a profession "in the country"

b-1310    how secular priests cannot do the kind of things
          regular priests do in places like Gort Muire where
          they can be very personal because there are many of
          them and they do not have such administrative tasks as
          running schools or doing baptisms, etc.

b-1354    how people go to mass to Gort Muire because there are
          no such distractions as children and how it is the
          elite thing to do. How "by the fruits thou shalt know
          them."

b-1390                  [the outside door is opened]

b-1452            [another closing]

b-1461    how what we got was "a bit negative" but also positive

b-1466    how he was shaped by the time when was raised, during
          WWII while Fr. Hurley was raised in a more pluralistic
          time.

b-1521            [another closing]

b-1531                  [the door closes, footsteps getting
                        louder, Susan exclaims "my goodness" and
                        the recorder is shut off.]
November 20, 1996