Literal transcript with some paraverbal cues

         Susan                    Fr. B.                          Hervé

it's really moving.         that's the, that's the
And you would think
that here in Ireland
this would be the
bastion, there is a
lot of it going on
                            but that's our
                            inferiority complex.

How do you, explain
that to me. What do
you mean by that?
                            Well you see,
Because it's other
it's got to be better       yes
than anything we've
got ourselves
                            you see unfortunately,
                            I believe, in Ireland
                            xxxxx we got political
hum um                      freedom, in 1916. We
                            got so drunk on
                            political freedom that
                            we forgot to get the
                            most important one,
                            that was, social and 
                            economic freedom.  So
                            the whole country is
                            still owned by very
                            wealthy British ex-
                            landlords xxxxxx 2,000
                            acres, xxxxx xxx
                            County Kilkenny
                            magnificent, has all
That's an outrage           the rights on the
                            fishing rights, on the
                            black waters from
                            Dunxxxx to xxxx

                            and they pay 500
                            pounds to get it; and
                            xxxxxx look up to
                            these as if they are        yeah
                            better than us, if you
                            ask through the
                            country
                            all of this because
                            they are owned, you
                            see we didn't get,
                            Africans now are very
                            wise, they get over
                            the oil rights, they
                            get over the, and then
                            they get them out.
                            But we just got
                            political freedom, a
                            parliament, but we
                            forgot about the most
                            important thing. xxxx
                            You know the country
                            is owned by foreigners
So how does this
particular thing
relate to the Church        therefore we think
                            thus, for instance we
                            couldn't get in, we
                            always said the Our
                            Father, you know, the
                            usual way, not "Thyne
                            is the kingdom, the_"
                            and the minute that
                            xxxxxx, the Irish
                            people, most of them
                            went crazy "this is
                            fantastic" like you
they thought that was       know
great
                            xxxx on all the time.
                            A lot of them, xxxx
                            take the vernacular, I
                            heard a different idea
                            that they have in
                            America xxxxx all the
                            time, you know

                            you see xxxxxx
                            ecumenism in this
                            country

on the other hand I
hear a lot of
conservative stuff
too, people saying you
know "it's never been
the same since they
change the mass from
the Latin to English"
and _ women my age,         yeah
women I socialize
with, yearn, many of
them for the church         yeah
they remember back
with the Latin mass
                            but that I believe was
                            a kind of cocoon of
                            security for them and
                            mystery.  You know,