On pedagogical authority: One teacher's choice

by Hervé Varenne

Foreword
The body of this piece was conceived in heat of the first three weeks after September 11, 2001, when I pondered what I, as person, professor, and minor university administrator, should do. I pondered this briefly when my wife called me to tell me that a plane had struck the World Trade Center: should I interrupt my morning routines? I pondered this during the first institutional event at Teachers College when I was asked to hold hands, looked at the colleagues next to me, and we decided not to do so. I pondered this as I decided not to initiate specific discussions of the events in my classes (and was not challenged by the students). And I pondered what to do when I was asked by a member of the central administration what "my" department was doing to respond to the worries of students.

One the main things I did do was to write a piece on authority in education. This is the piece that I am now making public without significant rewrite. A rewrite would anchor it in a different time, late December 2001, when the wisdom of the United States government's response can be assessed in terms of its results rather than in terms of the hopes and fears it generated at first. It is best to preserve an earlier anchoring. But the shift in perspective is worth using to highlight the themes of the piece: the sources of the authority to speak as teacher and the cultural constraints on authorship. So I start in this foreword with a brief history to serve as a case study.

The text was shaped as an address to students and colleagues during a panel discussion held on November 16th, 2001. This event was "my" response to the central administration-to the extent at least that I am the one who convened a planning committee of students and staff. The event itself, not surprisingly, was announced in a flier announcing that read: "the Department of International and Transcultural Studies invites you..." There were no challenges to this masking of the persons involved and the possible coopting of those among the faculty or students who did not think it such a good idea. Who are the personal actors here? Many did act: there was "I," the committee of students and staff I assembled to discuss the plans, the faculty who participated as speakers or audience, the central administrators who suggested that "something be done for the students." This is by no means an exhaustive list, and it should certainly include those who did not participate and thereby made a context for those who did.

And I ponder: who is the author of any event large and small? Who sets it up in its particular shape? Who authorizes it? Authorship, authorization, authority, these are the issues that the events of the past Fall have crystallized: Who is the agent behind the planes? Who authorized military action in Afghanistan? Where does the authority come from that lead men and women to act within the grand schemes that others, far away and perhaps long dead, have set for them? This is one of the many moments when we must act even though, or precisely because the act will make history in the lives of many, including many we do not know or who may, later, challenge our choices.

These are political issues. They are also educational ones. It is now well-known at Teachers College (but was much less known three months ago) that the institution was heavily involved in building a school system for Afghanistan in the nineteen fifties and sixties. It is probable that, in the next few years, the faculty and students of Teachers College will again be involved in the country. They will write text books, rebuild school buildings, redesign teacher education programs, etc. They will do it in the midst of a crowd of Afghans, Americans, Europeans, Japanese, etc., government officials, military people, missionaries, etc., all of whom will have something to say and some authority to commit finances, printing presses, building contractors, etc. In this cacophony, voices from the great traditions of American education, from Dewey to Maxine Greene, will be strong, though probably not overwhelming. But they will also claim the legitimate authority to direct action-even if only the moral authority that comes, in America, with the affirmation that the child, developing his or her personal genius, must be at the core. After all, this is what Teachers College, for more than one hundred years has done on an ever more global scale.

As Bourdieu reminded us (1977 [1970]), pedagogical authority is what makes schools practically possible. But, in Bourdieu as in most social scientific writing, authority has a bad name and the word only appears as part of a critical narrative-if not one that seeks to deconstruct common sense and leaves the agent (author, teacher, administrator) with no grounds on which to act for others in the future of the collectivity. But of course, deconstruction, as published practice in academia, is a constructive act that is part of a system of educational authority that it cannot abolish. "I" am not an author for other authors unless I speak with the authority that comes to me through my social positioning.

I, as Chair of the Department of International and Transcultural Studies at Teachers College, Columbia University, was authorized to set something in motion. It would be an "event" during which faculty members would speak about the implications of "September 11" for their work. The student committee with whom I planned the event agreed with me that we would encourage "intellectual" rather than "therapeutic" pieces-as a form of altogether explicit resistance to the authority patterns that, during the initial weeks, gave the public podiums at Teachers College to therapists and counselors who would "help us with our emotions." I was never directly challenged for the title I came up with for the event, "America Abroad,"-though one colleague indirectly questioned my wisdom in using the word "America," thereby reminding me of a set of sensibilities that I had forgotten in my search for something with rhetorical punch. In this brief comment, as in the brief moment when I decided not to hold hands with colleagues in a therapeutic moment I could not quite escape, issues of authority and authorship re-emerge. At the moment of action, authority did not dictate whether I would say "America" or "the United States." But at this moment, various voices grounded in different traditions challenged the setting of the stage, and stood ready to mete the consequences. At this very same moment, I, as teacher, professor, department chair, did set a particular stage for others in their future and thus reconstituted a certain authority. A die was cast and a price may have to be paid. Responsibility cannot be escaped. And thus, at this moment, "I" speak:

Opening
I am sure you have all heard that "we" should stand united and that "we" should not seek revenge. I suspect that "we", or at least many-or perhaps only some-of us in this room will hear these statements as somehow at political odds. I also suspect that many will not pause to reflect on the rhetorical form of these statements: who is "we" in such political statements? In this room? In this country? In this world? What is done to me - as individual - when I hear that "we" do something or other, that we are to do it, or not do it? What do I do to you when, today, I use the form sometimes with quote marks, actual or implied, and sometimes with the explicit intent to stress how all of us, in this room, country, or world, are together, parts of the same event? Under what conditions might this speech that is of course an act be legitimate as something that I may, must do. What authorizes me to teach? When might we have to defend the principles and institutions that set our stages?

After such an opening paragraph, some might expect a deconstruction of this or that usage of "we." I might be expected to highlight the political interests not-so-well hidden in any particular statement starting with "we." But this is not where I am going. I assume that all such statements are rhetorical and political. I assume that to assert "We should stand united" is to try to convince audiences of the validity of a particular analysis, critique or proposed course of action. And I assume that the same is true of the assertion "we should not seek revenge." I also assume that most of us are astute enough consumers of political language to see through the maneuvers - whether we end up cheering a particularly apt rendition of a personal position or we end up angry at an attempt to coopt our energies or enlist our loyalty. Neither we in this room, nor our adversaries, are "cultural dopes," unaware of the conditions of human existence in culture.

My concern today is constructive rather than deconstructive. I am searching for what I, as an actor in particular conditions, should do given what has happened, what is still happening, and what will happen in the next weeks, months, and indeed until the end of our lives? I have to give personal answers to these questions-and this text is one of them. But the content of the answer, as such, is not my concern either. My concern is with the conditions that make me one of those who, in this particular setting, may speak answers. But "may" in English, as a grammatical form, does not quite capture a situation where I was put under firm pressure to stand here and propose answers. At this moment I must speak, ex officio.1 I am trying to understand an imperative that comes with the office of professor and department head. In a very minor way, it is but an instance of the broader mechanisms that make it necessary for me to teach, to investigate, to publish, to administer-that is to act on this collective stage. Above all I am concerned with the grounds that make legitimate the social construction of these various positions and then "authorize" me to speak. These are the mechanisms that make me an "officer" of this institution, and, through the chartering process inscribed over Low Library, an agent of the "People of the State of New York." And these mechanisms, of course, are the same that require other agents of the State in certain positions of power to act in ways that may include military responses.

I also speak here as an "agent" of cultural anthropology. I am speaking as someone who carries the burden of a long tradition of concern with "culture" and who continues fully to participate in the reconstitution of this tradition through dialogue with peers, colleagues, students and all other parties who might find useful what cultural anthropologists have to say. The difficulty, for me, is that cultural anthropology is founded on the recognition that all human products, including political constitutions and their institutional correlates, like schools or universities, emerge in history not through the necessity of evolution but in a contingent process of bricolage where shreds and patches borrowed from all over temporarily assemble themselves in patterns that immediately start to decay.2 This, briefly sketched, is the relativistic position that every generation of cultural anthropologists since M. Mead at least has reconstituted, ever more radically. It is the position that stands as one aspect of a possibly fundamental critique of the very grounds of our democracies to the extent these grounds present themselves as "self-evident," the reflection of "Laws of Nature" that are also the laws of "Nature's God." These "truths" are the grounds for rights that are "unalienable"-as the Declaration of Independence proceeds to affirm. To play on the word "alien," one might say that the Declaration affirms that these truths cannot be made "other," that is culturally specific, temporal, and temporary. They are general, valid for all times and universal. But the common sense of cultural anthropology has now established that truths are never universal or "trans-cultural."

As an "agent" of both the State of New York and cultural anthropology, I am now at a moral impasse which I interpret as a call to recast anthropological theory about culture, and perhaps move to a justification for democracy based not on universal truths but rather on human ones. We do not have to accept a relativism that ends up grounding all authority in power and hegemony. We can search for a theory of constitution through participation that would recognize the legitimacy of traditions opened to continual contestation. In any event, there are serious analytic problems with radical relativism, besides the moral and political ones. It remains hard to see how pure power can enforce routine authority-unless one hypothesizes that most people are so thoroughly indoctrinated into dominating ideas that they will not see through them. With the critics of socialization theories of social order, I am convinced that all can see through hegemonic claims-even when they can do little about them. I have explored some of the implications of this stance elsewhere (Varenne and McDermott 1998). As I continue to do so, I want to argue that the grounds of social action are not rational, in the universalistic sense we inherit from 18th century philosophers. Neither are they simply "arbitrary" as the acts of the kings of the old European orders could be. The foundations of social order are moral. They are a matter of legitimacy and authority that then raise issues of commitment, critique and potentially radically destructive resistance among those whom historical accident bring together, whether by birth, conquest or trade.

This address, obviously, is an instance of the problem that we are all facing as actors in particular historical situations. I write this address now, in early November 2001, in response to the question some of you asked of me a while ago: what do I have to say about the death of 6,000 human beings at the hand of nineteen other human beings? What is my response to the various political responses - including of course the military response? To those questions I have a "personal" response, but as I thought more about it and analyzed my various emotional responses, I have come to accept that, eventually, I was asked to speak and now do speak because of the positions I occupy as anthropologist, professor, department chair, and because of your trust that I have come to occupy these positions through a legitimate process. I suspect very few of you would accept a claim from me that I remain a stranger, invisible in a foreign land, under the primary directive not to participate in the everyday life of the people I am visiting. The fact is that, as one ends up occupying positions like anthropologist or professor, one must assume, existentially as well as administratively, the historical and ideological burdens that have produced these positions. This is something Jean Paul Sartre well understood when he refused the Nobel prize in 1964 so that he could continue fully to occupy the position of "writer" that had been, of course, constructed in Euro-American cultures two or three hundred years earlier. If we have accepted invitations to join this faculty, or if we have accepted admissions to this institution, then we must work in the terms set by this institution, and the broader institutions that constitute it-all the way to the constitution of the United States and the Great Traditions of Europe out of which it sprang in conversations with other traditions, great and small.3 We can, of course, make tactical choices within the tradition, including some that might be revolutionary. But we cannot free ourselves from the conditions we find when we enter the tradition-whether as an infant or as a visitor later in life. Thus, I speak to you as an educator accepting the task of offering students something they might not get by themselves, that is, a particular understanding, which, in a graduate school, must be that form of understanding which will transform students into scholars, that is school people, in what is the Great Tradition of Euro-American scholarship.

I am not being ironic here. When our authority to speak is publically invoked or contested, responses are required that refer back to the bases of this authority-at least if we are trying to respect those who invoke or contest. In brief, I should not have accepted to speak here if I were not ready existentially to assI am not being ironic here. When our authority to speak is publically invoked or contested, responses are required that refer back to the bases of this authority-at least if we are trying to respect those who invoke or contest. In brief, I should not have accepted to speak here if I were not ready existentially to assume the position given me. If we accept the position of teacher, or that of "development" expert as most of us will do here, then we must also accept the burdens that come with the particular forms that we can legitimately use. Irony is not allowed, nor radical skepticism. The play is too deep. We cannot withdraw. We must speak, act, and do so decisively even if small voices of doubt continue to pull at us.

The everyday reconstitution of America
To illustrate these general statements I have in mind a somewhat ancient but stark instance. Recently, I was asked to write an introduction (Varenne 2000) to a reprint of one of Margaret Mead's most controversial books And Keep Your Powder Dry ([1942] 2000). She wrote this book within the first months of the attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941. It was part of a broader attempt to demonstrate that cultural anthropology had something to contribute to the war. She was going to look at the U.S. as an anthropologist and as some of her colleagues would soon look at Germany, Russia, France and Japan. Some aspects of the American dictated constitution of Japan, particularly the decision to preserve of the emperor as a figurehead, are the product of this anthropological work. We have here a spectacular example of "applied anthropology" backed by the full authority of the American polity. The work that Teachers College conducted in Afghanistan is of the same order.
One of the most interesting features of And Keep Your Powder Dry in this context is Margaret Mead's manipulation of "we, Americans." She is fully aware of what she is doing. In the preface to the British edition of the book she explains that the word "we" is not meant to include the people of Great Britain. She is also self-consciously manipulative of who is to be included in "we, Americans." Readers who bought the book in the United States are included whether they were born "here" or not. People who disagree with her analysis of the foundations of America in tolerance, openness, the nurturing of personal freedom, etc., are specifically not included. Most interesting is what she does not do: discuss inclusion in demographic or political terms. The book is spectacular in its refusal to address the limits that some institutions or individuals in the U.S. place on some of its citizens or guests. If any institution, policy or individual does not act in the spirit of individualized, community-building democracy, then they are not American. As she says indirectly when heaping opprobrium on Nazi racial policies, the southern states of her time were simply not "American" in their segregationist policies. Segregation, I believe she would have said, is not "what we are fighting for." Move forward sixty years and I am sure that she would have said that "we" are not fighting for those who insult or attack the different among us, and particularly not the Muslim.4

But she argued then, and I am arguing now, that this process, a rhetorical one in her book, and educational one in our classrooms here and abroad, a military one in Afghanistan and elsewhere, can be a legitimate one. That some might, at times, coopt the authority of the American institutions for their own purposes does not make these institutions less legitimate or less worth fighting for. The fact that some manipulate election laws to prevent some people from voting does not make voting illegitimate. On the contrary! Voting is worth fighting for. A humanistic education for all is worth fighting for. The free exercise of religion is another one. We might now include, after 30 years of call to "multiculturalism," the right to the free exercise of one's customs, including one's language, dress, foods - but perhaps not the right to institute political ideologies practically incompatible with the other rights.

Democracy as cultural fact
This list, the political institutions that inscribe ideas in social space, and the political acts all this entails, for Margaret Mead, constituted the America it was legitimate to fight for. These also constitute other modern democracies in Europe and the rest of the world. And most of us hope that they will constitute all other polities. But the fundamental issue is masked if we remain with the noble piety that "all human beings are natural democrats," or that democratic rights are "self-evident." It may be true that democracy does not only belong to ancient Greece, Europe or America. But it is misleading to ignore other possibilities imagined in India, China or elsewhere in the world. By stressing the universality of the political form, or at least the yearning for it, a universality based on a moral as well as psychic "unity of mankind," we forget the historicist argumentation. What we inherit most directly from 18th century political philosophers is grounded in a particular "culture," for lack of a better word. This, of course, is where things get interesting, and politically challenging, to a cultural anthropologist-and very difficult for us as educators and political actors. Let us accept that America is a historical production. It will someday be a dead curiosity for scholars to ponder, along with the Roman Empire and other great civilizations. In the technical sense that it is the product of human hands, it is art, if not artifice. It is arbitrary to the functional needs of human reproduction. A long historical process has led to its institution as a dominant, hegemonic, and legitimate, form in one part of the world, and also, by now, everywhere else. It frames meaning and certain things have become much easier to understand and build, while others have become more difficult. There has been a price to the glory. Culture is disability as well as ability. More and more human beings have experienced this price, if not its glory. And so America remains something to contest. It was contested from the start by people taking the point of view of earlier legitimacies-for example by de Tocqueville even if he saw it as inevitable in the future. It was contested by communists and fascists. And it is now contested by Muslim critics, some born and raised among us, envisioning alternative futures.

I speak here as a cultural anthropologist, summarizing the main points of some "Anthropology 101" course. In the routine version of the course, I would emphasize the arbitrariness of the American forms, their contingent historical development and evolution, how they enable and disable the people of the United States. With a bow to Bakhtin and others, I would also emphasize contestation and resistance, and de-emphasize enculturation. And I would also emphasize the work that all who encounter America perform to reconstitute it. I would probably not address the issues of legitimacy that I am raising here-at least not in periods of peace and prosperity. And thus, in periods of war, I could be accused of undermining the grounds that make reconstitutive action legitimate, in the United States and abroad. Students would be right to ask me whether I am really saying that there are no "self-evident truths" on which to base a constitution. If "free speech" is a cultural construct, then there are no independent justification for defending this constitution and all it entails. The students of Teachers College should also ask what is the justification for our professional role in shaping not only "our" children but the children of all who come under our purview? By working here, have we made ourselves into the blinded agents of the ruling class, peddling their ideas to unsuspecting masses?

To clarify these issues, let us consider briefly another stark example. Some will remember the Coca Cola jingle from the 1970s "I want to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony." I have always found it somewhat disquieting precisely because it is so concise in summarizing our mission here at Teachers College. We may dislike being coopted by a global corporation, but the goals of the jingle ("harmony") and the means ("teaching") are precisely ours. It is all the more disquieting for an educator who is also a cultural anthropologist that the total enterprise in which we participate is much more encompassing than the commercial one within which Coca Cola operates. We do not have to entice people to buy our products. People must come to us for the certification that entitles them to significant rights and privileges. They must do so because, in modern democracies, schooling is free, compulsory, and carefully regulated by the State. Many of our ancestors fought for this to be the case throughout the 19th century. I say "many of our ancestors" to remind us that some of our ancestors did bitterly contest these processes locally, nationally, and internationally. This resistance has not ended and we continue to fight for this political and ideologically if not militarily at the opening of the 21st century. These are no trivial matters and Ivan Illich (1970) was somehow justified in seeing in this an act of ultimate hubris. As a sometime critic of particular forms of schooling that can easily be shown to disable many people in particular ways, I understand the urge to "de-school" society. There might be legitimate futures, and there were pasts, when schooling is neither compulsory nor state-regulated. But, at this point, I cannot imagine how this could be, practically, and I must face the grounds for schooling so eloquently stated by Dewey (1959 [1897]).

Dewey unapologetically referred back to the "self evident truths" on which earlier generations have founded the political system we still live under, and that many of us continue to invoke when we have noticed that some policy or other is not consistent with them. A century later, schools of education carry the same torch, particularly in their staff of behavioral scientists, including anthropologists, searching for the universal psychological or sociological mechanisms that teachers must then use to achieve their State mandated goals. We now know that it is as easy to deconstruct calls to science as it is to deconstruct calls to God as justification for any course of action. Radical relativism is all corrosive philosophically-though only if we accept the term of a debate where commitment is made dependent on rationalistic proof. There is another route that recognizes, not the "artificiality" of all human institutions, but rather their artfulness. This shift preserves 'art'-that is production, construction, constitution, sensitive to actual conditions and open to the making of new ones, some of which may carry the legitimate authority of the collective.

Democracy as moral imperative: participation, critique, reconstitution
I want to stress here that I give full intellectual respect to those who fight us determinedly in Afghanistan and elsewhere. The war is not a matter of greed or spite that will be resolved by reforming the IMF or the World Bank. The issue is not food. The issue is the organization of the proper society which, by now, for all except the most isolationist, is a world society or, better, a world polity. In the past, we, as political thinkers and educators, have given intellectual respect to those who have contested what we have been constructing, from de Tocqueville, to Marx or Nietzsche. We even respected those who attempted to transform their intellectual resistance into political institutions, from Stalin to Hitler or Mao-Tsetung. In our sometimes extremely violent interaction with their critiques our own understandings shifted. New institutions appeared, from the United Nations, to the World Court, to the European Community, and, more controversially perhaps, the World Bank, the IMF and such. Together these institutions move us away from the 19th century model of the nation as center of legitimacy. They also reconstitute on a world scale the political institutions further strengthened by the victory of liberal democracies in their struggles with fascism and Soviet-style communism. Through all these processes one cultural arbitrary has become inescapable to a larger and larger proportion of humanity. It is not surprising that it should continue to be contested not only by the disgruntled or desperate, but also by the well-educated, the thoughtful and the pious.

Colloquially, "we, the Talibans and us in this room, are in it together." I have talked about this "it" as a complex organization of positions that each of us try to make our own after being recruited in them. This includes all forms of specific resistance to this construction, whether peaceful or not. The terrorists are "with us," they are talking to us, and we must respond. My main concern is to understand the kind of "togetherness" that binds together crowds of strangers in a com-unity of sorts. Technically, I am interested in "the conditions of joint participation in a complex event."5 I want to investigate the implications of the fact that, for certain overwhelming purposes, we are inescapably "we" to each other and somehow responsible for what others are doing. It is easy to accept that we are "we" with our most intimate others, with our friends, neighbors and colleagues. It is more difficult to face that we are "we' with those who oppose us, loyally or not. This is what the events of the past months have reminded us of.6

All forms of togetherness are difficult to account for, and it is all the more difficult to account when the relationship is indirect and mediated by institutional mechanisms. It is particularly difficult to do so when the relationship is antagonistic. Most classically, social thinkers have worried about the prerequisites of peaceful togetherness. As most of them proceeded to assume that togetherness necessitated consensus, they also had to assume that, in cases when some were oppressed, they would be made unaware of their conditions. I am proceeding in other directions.7 I am more concerned with continually emerging consequences as the unexpected happens including the apparition of new persons or populations. I am not worried about the haphazard process that bring us together, and I am not sure much is gained by attempting to attune these more carefully in the hope that conflict will be muted. I am worried about what can happen when people who have been thrust together become aware of the organizing grounds of their interaction. As this awareness develops, much can happen that eventually requires difficult work by all whether this work is reconstitutive, transformative, or destructive. The issue is not hegemony, it is authority.

Provocatively, I have said that I speak here as "agent of America." I am not saying that I am an actor "in America" (though I started with this formulation in the introduction to this text). Neither am I saying that I "am" American. I am stressing, controversially and argumentatively, that the grounds of my agency is controlled by the cultural arbitrary of America that has built this podium and placed me behind it. I have also hinted that through my acceptance of the offers that have been made to me to assume this position, I have become existentially committed. In other words, I am responsible. But before I move to this final argument about commitment and responsibility, I want to explore further how I am talking here about participatory agency.

Like many of us in this room, I was not born in the United States and I am not a citizen. I entered this country on a student visa and I remain a "resident alien." At this point I intend to keep this status, and accept that I will remain alienated from certain aspects of the political processes in this country. Others in this room have made other choices but it is fair to say that "even though" we were born all over the world, we hold all sorts of citizenships, we have all sorts of personal habits, different mother tongues, different religious faiths, etc., we do work together in this department and university in the terms set up by the university and this country. Whether we accept or not the visa regulations of the United States, or the conditions for citizenship here, we work with them.

But the recital of our "differences" and of our apparent ability to work together, if it is not properly contextualized, threatens the more precise understanding I am seeking. This contextualization requires that we take a brief detour into the American symbolic imagination that sets up, and then limits, the discourse of "diversity." "Diversity" we know has to be celebrated. Those of us who come to the United States late in our lives also find out that diversity is also linked to "community." Thus the all-inclusive recital of difference that ends Zangwill's play8 that has been so famous for its title-The melting pot-is the prelude to a statement about the future when all will find themselves in harmony, united by a common goal and coming to the common understanding that we are all human beings striving for the same fundamental values enshrined in particular institutions and expressed in particular symbols (Varenne 1998). Those of us who have stood before a judge during the ceremonies of "naturalization" know that a version of this discourse leads to the recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance, facing the flag with our right hand on our heart. Some of us will not do so, and others will not be able to do so as it becomes even more difficult to transform a student visa into one that makes one a "resident" alien and then a citizen.

E pluribus unum. As a social scientist concerned with meaning I delight in the wonderful interplay of values, symbols, rituals and institutions, that is at work here. I also recognize the great strength and limitations of the implicit model of sociability summarized in these three words. I am particularly critical of the hypothesis that consensus and the sharing of values is both a prerequisite, and the inevitable by-product, of the movement towards the stabilization of any culture (polity embodied in particular discourses and institutions), and thus of democracy as culture. This was common sense to Dewey and justified his call for particular schools. It led to the construction of Teachers College as a school of education rather than as a training institute. Later these ideas were explored and reconstituted by all sorts of social scientists, from classical anthropologists claiming the notion of "culture" as "learned" and "shared" as their focus, to mainstream and critical sociologists working with concepts like socialization, hegemony, or habitus.

I speak here from a different point of view that starts with the evidence that sociability can proceed even when people share very little, or when they specifically disagree, or when they suffer in body or soul because of the organization of the social field in which they find themselves. Starkly, this is the view of sociability that starts with fields of battle rather than utopian fields of communal dreams. The problem in our relationship with these students in Afghanistan we know as "Talibans" is not that they are radically different "cultural" others. It is not that they speak another language and that we misunderstand their cues. It is, from my perspective, that they and us are now together locked in centripetal dialogue we cannot escape. This dialogue brings us ever closer to the mutual awareness of the grounds of what may otherwise have remained the unexamined common sense of our routine world.

Historians will tell us that the dialogue between, greatly to simplify, Europe and Islam is not a new one and it can be traced hundreds if not thousand of years. This dialogue was renewed on different grounds as the Europeans colonized much of the rest of the world. And it was renewed again as the migratory movements were reversed and the rest of the world came to Europe and the United States. Marshall McLuhan once analogized what was already noticeable in the 1960s as the emergence of a "global village." This was before the Internet, before the cost of international travel collapsed, before capitalistic industrialism took root in what was then "the Third World." It was a time when most McDonalds were still located within the United States. What he and his critics did not realize is that this image of the global village is not a benign one: villages are where most of humanity fights most bitterly with neighbors they have come to hate in disputes that are always a complex of material interests and ideological faiths. When the Founding Fathers of America separated Church from State, they may have remembered the uncivil wars of religion that had rent Europeans villages and towns over several centuries. Joint participation does not breed consensus, it breeds contempt (as well as envy and resentment). Or, to put it more mildly, it is as likely to breed contempt (exploitation, prejudice, alienation, etc.) as to breed consensus (shared understandings, mutual recognition, love?). We have little choice but to accept Bakhtin's views that togetherness must produce new voices in centrifugal processes that never returns a system to homeostasis.

Where does this leave us? It leaves us with the reality that all we do will constitute personal choices about how we are going to participate in the global village. We have to participate, or rather we are always participating, whether we want it or not. Isolation is not an option. Neither is ironic contemplation: the type of historical deconstruction cultural anthropology has become famous for may be useful for "understanding" but it cannot guide action. We do have to examine the grounds that authorize our positions and briefly take the position of those "others" to whom we will become significant in that we may make a difference in their lives-for example our students. We have to understand the activities that reconstitute our positions with their rights and privileges (possibly quite limited). And then we have to decide whether to live within these boundaries, whether to challenge them, whether to seek their destructions, whether to defend them. We have to do this, day in and day out, and not simply when major existential choices must be made. Like a marriage that may, in Euro-American mythology, start in unaccountable surprise, participation in complex social systems involves both moments of formal commitment and continuing work to preserve the slowly shifting grounds of the interaction. This work may lead to divorce (and, happily rarely, murder). It also leads to readjustments, and reconstitution. However much we may have worked to establish a way of being together, there will be more work to be done. In times of peace-hopefully most of the times-this might be a matter of changes here or there in this or that aspect of what has been routine. This may or may not change the grounds of the interaction-at least not perceptibly.

At other times the challenge is radical. It attacks the grounds of the interaction. In family life it might lead to divorce and physical separation. But most of those who divorce know that it is not so easy fully to separate and break all relationships-particularly if other human beings, children for example, are involved. In our world today, full separation is just not possible and so the challenges have to be squarely faced. We must expect these challenges to the legitimacy of democracy and we cannot truly expect that our educational or political system will lead to a time when all challenges will be framed in the rules of our own political discourses. The recent events must be seen as challenges to the grounds of these institutions and political discourses. Hopefully, this challenge will remain limited in the amount of energy it can summon, and our response can remain similarly limited. But there could come a time when the challenge, whether it comes from fundamentalist Islam or some other ideology I cannot imagine though someone else will, is indeed so strong as to be possibly overwhelming. I think that, at such a time, we will have to fight, on any one of the many sides that will be drawn. More optimistically, but equally weighty, is the time when we will have to teach the children of the fundamentalist Muslims, as we teach the children of the fundamentalist Christians.

Hervé Varenne is Chair of the Department of International and Transcultural Studies at Teachers College, Columbia University.

FOOTNOTES
1. Technically, "not speaking" would be a speech act that would allow audiences to construct me as "someone who was given a turn to speak and refused the gift." This would justify any further responses, including hostile ones.
2. Lowie (1920: 441), Benedict (1932), Lévi-Strauss (1966 [1962])
3. I am well aware of the difficulties in reviving the distinction between "great" and "folk" traditions that interested Redfield (1962) and Singer (1972). But they were onto something when they insisted that we need special tools to deal with cultural patterns fully inscribed in ritual, architecture and institutions
4. These rhetorical decisions have been heavily criticized, most recently by di Leonardo (1998).
5. I believe that this is how Durkheim understood a "society" as an entity of a higher order than the individual parts it appears to be made up of.
6. By implication I may be disagreeing here with Schutz's development of Weber about the conditions of social action (1967 [1932]: 140ff).
7. My inspiration comes from Saussure (1966 [1915]) facing linguistic drift, and from Garfinkel (1967) establishing "trust" (rather than enculturation) as the foundation of sociability.
8. "Celt and Latin, Slav and Teuton, Greek and Syrian, black and yellow, Jew and Gentile, East and West, and North and South, the palm and the pine, the pole and the equator, the crescent and the cross," (Zangwill 1975 [1909]: 200)

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